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Occam’s razor at its finest. One can recognize Jewish disdain for western people without needing such a grand conspiracy.

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The problem here is that these two authors thought they were Nietzsche 2, and could copy his quasi aphoristic style that looks like vibes based association of different ideas and historical facts into a coherent whole, make birth of tragedy 2, and influence generations to come.

The problem: Nietzsche was one of the preeminent authorities on classical Greece even at the young age that he was writing the Birth of Tragedy (which itself is a coherent work with extreme clarity and clear arguments). It's through the thorough understanding of the material that he was able to come up with his analysis and novel ideas.

It's clear that these two have had neither the intellectual capability to be Nietzsche nor did they put in the work to become world-rank scholars to come even close. The result is a desperate attempt to produce something world revolutionary and provocative like Nietzsche, but it ends up a garbled together mess of nonsense.

Some insights aren't even that wrong — as you said it makes sense that for example Jews would be interested in stories of double identity, if you study biographies etc. But you can explain this purely through genealogy and material conditions. Looking the same, yet being different deep down was a structurally common experience for Jews to have. That Jews have an interest in moralising themselves, or their own philosophical ideas they may have gotten from their structural situation in European society, sure, I guess. Elaborating that into a massive conspiracy theory of Jews deliberately putting symbols absolutely everywhere just to put "Aryans" down is completely insane.

This book is and REM in general is a catastrophe for the right because with it the rightis effectively left with nothing philosophically or conceptually concrete to build itself up on that isn't Catholic integralism, which is on very shaky ground itself since the Church is trying hard to kill and excommunicate them. Atheism doesn't seem to be a way forward, as Richard Dawkins himself admitted. "Cultural Christian" is just liberalism. A way out has to be found, and with this Apollonism is completely dead. It had potential; hardcore Pan-Europeanism, anti-thirdworldism, pro-Ukraine, moving beyond Christianity, relatively cool symbols and so on.

It seemed like they were trying to provide the right wing with an idea that went beyond mere Conatus. The right is mostly fixed on something like: "I want to preserve my culture and my people and I don't need anything more than that." That's what Jared Taylor has been doing for 30 years and it's boring, empty, uninspiring. Nobody cares. Mere self preservation isn't a value and and Nietzsche himself realised this. And with the failure of this, I guess, the Western right wing is literally just Conatus or Christianity against Christianity.

I'd be interested to hear what you have to say to this conundrum especially.

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